tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post3382019619574071794..comments2024-03-22T17:05:55.267-04:00Comments on MD Whistleblower: Plagiarism and Medicine: Should We Care?Michael Kirsch, M.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07555280388086931097noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-8232776177826702302011-07-10T06:34:55.993-04:002011-07-10T06:34:55.993-04:00My content I post on my website is plagiarized all...My content I post on my website is plagiarized all the time. I suspect yours is as well.wisdom teeth removalhttp://www.teethremoval.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-13487017691564565462010-12-12T03:47:41.853-05:002010-12-12T03:47:41.853-05:00Why not have applicants to residency write their p...Why not have applicants to residency write their personal statements as well as answer, in writing, an impromptu question, requiring no skill other than a facility in English, as does Sarah Lawrence College at their interviews.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03910954969447971397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-39388430034271178462010-11-05T15:24:36.070-04:002010-11-05T15:24:36.070-04:00The concept is quite simple, I think. If you are ...The concept is quite simple, I think. If you are expressing someone else's idea, in any form, the source should be credited and not presented as original.Michael Kirsch, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07555280388086931097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-88030533267566229012010-11-05T15:18:18.518-04:002010-11-05T15:18:18.518-04:00We are not without defenses to the siege of plagia...We are not without defenses to the siege of plagiarism. <br /><br />If you entered my previous post into Google, it would have pulled up the actual author, and my plagiarism would have been instantly recognized. <br /><br />Anonymous 806 is a better person than I. As I can make no sense out of post-modernism except on its own metalevel, I had no idea what the quote meant.A. Baileynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-35180183956064822442010-11-05T11:57:10.657-04:002010-11-05T11:57:10.657-04:00>> Of course you plagiarized it. Just becaus...>> Of course you plagiarized it. Just because you remember something doesn't make the thought yours.<br /><br />Does plagiarism actually transmit to verbal communication..? especially when such verbal communication is of information, not independent creative thought..?<br /><br />I'd say no. My example was rhetorical.Nicholas Fogelson, MDhttp://www.academicobgyn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-7042162261683252582010-11-05T09:17:55.035-04:002010-11-05T09:17:55.035-04:00Brad, I would be delighted to review your non-plag...Brad, I would be delighted to review your non-plagiarized manuscript. I assume I would then be entitled to be listed as an author.Michael Kirsch, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07555280388086931097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-60655716068383869532010-11-04T23:01:46.224-04:002010-11-04T23:01:46.224-04:00Hi Michael,
This is exactly what I was doing res...Hi Michael, <br /><br />This is exactly what I was doing research on this summer. We finally finished the manuscript and are in the process of submitting it to journals. I think you'd find it interesting, I'll send it your way. <br /><br />BradBrad Landernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-58195883972013078572010-11-03T20:36:37.403-04:002010-11-03T20:36:37.403-04:00Carolyn, I enjoyed your piece. You might wish to ...Carolyn, I enjoyed your piece. You might wish to review http://bit.ly/14SgLT.Michael Kirsch, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07555280388086931097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-40949337821515939702010-11-03T15:38:39.472-04:002010-11-03T15:38:39.472-04:00A lovely example of plagiarism at its finest is th...A lovely example of plagiarism at its finest is the widespread practice of ghostwriting and 'guest authorship' in medical journals. In both cases, the name that appears in print as a study's author is not actually that of the true author. That smells like basic plagiarism to me. <br /><br />An ‘honorary’ or ‘guest’ author acknowledgement in a medical journal article is usually something bestowed as a tribute to an academic department chair or to the person who acquired funding for the research. <br /><br />But isn't fraudulently bestowing credit to somebody who is NOT the author just like university students putting their own names on purchased internet essays? <br /><br />The similarity: neither actually wrote them.<br /><br />The difference: the students are punished for their fraud; department chairs are honoured for it. <br /><br />More to the point, doctors and researchers get to add one more title to the all-important list of published papers on their CVs, without all that bother of actually doing the work. <br /><br />How is this fraud any more palatable than medical ghostwriting? <br /><br />More at "Medical Ghostwriting And Guest Authorship: Twins Separated At Birth?" on THE ETHICAL NAG: MARKETING ETHICS FOR THE EASILY SWAYED <br /> http://ethicalnag.org/2009/09/22/guest-athors/Carolyn Thomashttp://ethicalnag.org/2009/09/22/guest-athors/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-4032506802179515342010-11-02T10:54:58.083-04:002010-11-02T10:54:58.083-04:00I agree. It is interesting though that an entire ...I agree. It is interesting though that an entire culture is shifting away. The EFF (Electronic Freedom Federation) is an entire organization, well funded, that is dedicated to destruction of the concept of copyright. It is well respected by a large cadre of technorati, including major players like Leo Laporte. EFF has defended pro-bono many of the folks that were sued by the RIAA for music sharing violations. Times they are a changin...Nicholas Fogelson, MDhttp://www.academicobgyn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-31027417714565644172010-11-02T09:04:26.140-04:002010-11-02T09:04:26.140-04:00Comments appreciated. While shifting cultural tre...Comments appreciated. While shifting cultural trends have caused ethical erosion with respect to plagiarism and other issues, values of right and wrong must stand firm. If we give in to prevailing culture and redefine values, then we become ethically unmoored. Plagiarism is theft and is wrong. Redefining the transgression doesn't sanitize the offense in my view.Michael Kirsch, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07555280388086931097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-67463916433105223042010-11-02T08:06:55.903-04:002010-11-02T08:06:55.903-04:00Dr. Fogelson,
Of course you plagiarized it. Just ...Dr. Fogelson,<br /><br />Of course you plagiarized it. Just because you remember something doesn't make the thought yours. If I own a Picasso and I remember it sitting in my study, does that mean I created it? Of course not, and proper attribution is required. And as to A. Bailey, plagiarism is never required when credit due is given. Building on other's work has always been acceptable. The crux is admitting that it is someone's prior work.<br /><br />It scares me to think that these comments represent the quality of medical professional that I am exposing myself to. I expect my doctor to be able to think and understand, not just regurgitate what he/she has heard from someone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-30496560298484306942010-11-01T22:06:49.391-04:002010-11-01T22:06:49.391-04:00I've had a bunch of posts plagiarized and I do...I've had a bunch of posts plagiarized and I don't like it..<br /><br />But to play the devil's advocate a bit - the web has really changed the way information is accessed and transferred. The idea of intellectual property is being deprecated over time, to the point that many people no longer believe that copyright law should exist (and certainly act like it doesn't). I can see how the current youth culture that routinely steals music from the net without a second thought might not respect the intellectual property right of others, or feel the need to attribute them. Culture has shifted to deal with this issue, to the point that record labels now require 360 contracts that include merchandise and ticket sales, not just albums. <br /><br />Perhaps the very idea of copyright stemmed from the relative difficulty of copying something at all. It used to be non-trivial to copy a cassette tape (I remember playing Pac Man fever from one stereo and recording the sound into another as a child). The difficulty of the process discouraged it. Its now so easy that the only thing that keeps us from doing it is ethics, which have evolved to make it OK. <br /><br />Consider this. When I was on plastic surgery, one of my chiefs discussed a case with me and gave me a 5 minute discourse on all the ways we could treat it. The next day on rounds the attending asked me about how we could treat this patient. As I have a very strong auditory memory, I basically spooled out the lecture I heard the previous day, word for word. The attending was blown away. 24 hours earlier I knew nothing about the patient.<br /><br />Did I plagiarize it? I remembered it right out of my brain, and for all intents and purposed that information was now mine. Ultimately the credit of having a good medical student still went to the chief.Nicholas Fogelson, MDhttp://www.academicobgyn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7323692122514281455.post-88694366851231569032010-10-31T10:56:47.696-04:002010-10-31T10:56:47.696-04:00Ideas improve. The meaning of words participates i...Ideas improve. The meaning of words participates in the improvement. Plagiarism is necessary. Progress implies it. It embraces an author's phrase, makes use of his expressions, erases a false idea, and replaces it with the right idea.A. Baileynoreply@blogger.com